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Monday, February 20, 2017

#freenode channel featuring sud0, Church-, Della, noob1337, thumbs, _tiny_, and 18 others.

Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:45:54
who freenode/staff/
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:46:20
Ina-ba: hi
Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:46:31
Erm...hi.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:46:37
What can we help you with?
Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:46:39
I was told I can get a cloak here...
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:46:58
Ina-ba: indeed, but you need a registered account. Please see /msg nickserv help register if you don't have one yet
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:47:05
and note that cloaks don't hide your IP terribly well
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:49:45
hello i need cloak
genec 2017-02-20 03:50:04
niceGuy00: might want to finish registration
curly_brace 2017-02-20 03:51:02
what c application can i use to make a fingerprint scanner?
curly_brace 2017-02-20 03:51:05
i mean a free one.
curly_brace 2017-02-20 03:51:07
any?
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:51:27
need cloak now
genec 2017-02-20 03:51:30
curly_brace: have you considered ##programming ?
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:51:50
genec, hold on
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:51:54
i need to remove
curly_brace 2017-02-20 03:52:56
ok thank you
Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:53:03
I've already done the registration Fuchs
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:53:13
Ina-ba: now you did indeed
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:53:16
genec, i need cloak now
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:53:23
Ina-ba: there you go, fresh new cloak, hand made
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:53:32
lol :P
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:53:49
Fuchs, i need cloak
genec 2017-02-20 03:53:49
niceGuy00: while waiting patiently, consider reading https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks#cloaks-do-not-effectively-hide-your-ip
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:53:54
niceGuy00: there, hand made cloak as well, warm
Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:54:36
Thanks Fuchs. But I still see my ip and whatnot
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:54:41
gimme cloak it's ok if it's not effective
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:54:52
niceGuy00, You have one already
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:54:52
:p
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:55:03
niceGuy00, * niceGuy00 (~niceGuy00@unaffiliated/niceguy00) has joined
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:55:08
Ina-ba: yes, you do, we do, others by default don't, but as I wrote: they don't hide your IP terribly well
genec 2017-02-20 03:55:12
Ina-ba: you will always see your own in /whois
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:55:14
(by "we" I mean staff)
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:55:51
genec, has my nick got cloak?
Ina-ba 2017-02-20 03:56:10
Oh... alright. Thanks :)
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:56:32
niceGuy00, yes..
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:56:39
niceGuy00, you have a cloak
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:56:40
:P
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:56:48
why don't i see it Tims_Tech
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:56:57
do /whois niceGuy00
Otis 2017-02-20 03:57:00
/whois first line.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:57:09
niceGuy00, * [niceGuy00] (~niceGuy00@unaffiliated/niceguy00): realname
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:57:10
:p
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:57:24
k now can i be a pervert?
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:57:26
good
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:57:35
wat
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:57:38
maybe don't.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 03:57:44
what? niceGuy00
Church- 2017-02-20 03:57:45
Fuchs: So question, I'm assuming freenode sysops coming in and just taking a channel back/reclaiming it from disuse isn't done as a curtesy then?
niceGuy00 2017-02-20 03:57:47
teehee juz kidding
abraxis 2017-02-20 03:57:49
sigh, why did I see that coming
Church- 2017-02-20 03:57:49
Or something of the sort.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:58:05
Church-: depends, for ## we actually do, for # however we are not like other IRC networks,
Church- 2017-02-20 03:58:16
Meh. I need a couple cups of joe now that I'm at work.
Church- 2017-02-20 03:58:25
Fuchs: Ahhh. How come?
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:58:39
Church-: unfortunately # channels can be registered by anyone, so you'll see a few there that should not be there. Aside from that, we try to ensure that # channels are for on-topic groups or projects, and owned by people who represent them
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:59:07
Church-: mostly due to the fact that we aren't an IRC network because we want to be an IRC network, we want to provide communication infrastructure for free / open source software and peer directed projects
Fuchs 2017-02-20 03:59:22
so we behave differently to other networks when it comes to some things, and handing over single-# channels is one of them
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:00:00
say if you had an on-topic project (let's take a simple example: Ubuntu Linux) and the owner changes, we'd gladly transfer it over to the new one, if they do represent Ubuntu Linux (e.g. the company behind it)
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:00:27
or if a project unfortunately loses the main representative in a car accident, we'll hand it over to the successor.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:00:52
but we don't hand channels over just because "unused" or "owner is gone" if they are in the # namespace (for ## we actually do)
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:01:12
it is even more tricky in cases where they belong to an (abandoned) namespace, e.g. #reddit-*
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:01:27
so there a move to ## (or, in case of reddit, their own network, snoonet) is probably easier
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:02:09
But for his particular question: If Google came in here asking to have #google shut down, then historically speaking it would be highly considered, and the channel users would most likely move to ##google instead.
Xenogenesis 2017-02-20 04:02:42
Who is meant by google?
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:02:49
the company, I assume
Xenogenesis 2017-02-20 04:02:54
Yeah
Xenogenesis 2017-02-20 04:03:03
But you need a person to talk with
honey 2017-02-20 04:03:10
lol too funny.
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:03:10
They have people.
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:03:17
often lawyers.
Xenogenesis 2017-02-20 04:03:24
The CEO or just a worker?
Xenogenesis 2017-02-20 04:03:27
Aah ok
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:03:33
who use email
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:03:54
raccoon, I suspect freenode staff will just move #google to ##google and make room in #google for an official channel
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:03:54
:p
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:04:09
well, someone who represents them
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:04:18
that would probably depend on whatever situation it happens to be
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:04:23
so "just a worker" works as badly as "just one of hundred developers, who did a commit back in the olde days"
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:04:29
if they wanted it closed, it would be closed
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:04:38
(that's why we actually check these requests and can't really automate them)
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:04:53
not necessarily forwarded or moved. no hand holding
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:04:57
raccoon, well..depends though
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:05:06
pretty sure we'd try hand-holding
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:05:23
we aren't terribly known to rush things in an unfriendly manner
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:05:27
you don't want a lawyer to accuse you of intellectual property damage and muddying waters
honey 2017-02-20 04:05:45
why do you even care?
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:05:55
that's a good question honey
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:05:56
:p
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:06:03
eg, if #google became known for people pirating google intellectual property
honey 2017-02-20 04:06:19
pirating google? lol
genec 2017-02-20 04:06:21
raccoon: but I doubt staff will take some random email as someone who's definitely a lawyer for Google and will seek to verify such claims of affiliation
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:06:30
honey: I'm providing tech support here
honey 2017-02-20 04:06:35
no you're not.
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:06:41
genec: of course
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:07:00
I think it's rather hypothetical and not that much "support"
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:07:08
so I'd say just let staff handle it if it actually comes to it.
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:07:12
people asked for hypotheticals
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:07:37
you failed to answer his question over the course of 10 replies, though :p so I jumped in
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:07:42
as far as backlog serves it was actually very clear and specific
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:07:46
Church-: Fuchs: So question, I'm assuming freenode sysops coming in and just taking a channel back/reclaiming it from disuse isn't done as a curtesy then?
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:07:46
for an existing #reddit-* channel
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:08:01
raccoon: you might want to read a bit further back, then.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:08:23
I think raccoon is being silly.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:08:26
raccoon: also I'm rather sure you aren't terribly well suited to answer "what would freenode staff do if $x happened", e.g. google knocking on our doors.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:08:52
sud0: and I would care a lot less if it couldn't give wrong impressions to other users, but as it might, I'll gladly correct.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:09:31
I like the way you write bro
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:09:51
lovely, I'll make sure to poke you once I wrote my book and have it on $sellerwebsite
sud0 2017-02-20 04:09:56
are you british, Fuchs?
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:10:04
not as far as I know, no
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:10:37
lol Fuchs
honey 2017-02-20 04:10:42
are you nosey sud0?
honey 2017-02-20 04:10:45
lol
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:10:49
Fuchs: I'm sure I'm pretty well suited. You should should consider persuading me to become the staffer that handles such things.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:10:56
Are you sweet honey ?
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:10:58
:p
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:11:08
yeah, I think I'd rather skin myself and roll around in salted lemons a bit, thanks :)
honey 2017-02-20 04:11:11
no. i'm bitter honey. ;)
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:11:11
Hi BurningPrincess1 ! :D
sud0 2017-02-20 04:11:15
mom don't embarrass me in front of my friends, honey
sud0 2017-02-20 04:11:17
!!!!
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:11:30
:P
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:11:42
aww BurningPrincess1 :)
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:11:52
How are you feeling? BurningPrincess1
BurningPrincess1 2017-02-20 04:11:57
I am well
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:12:01
Good :)
sud0 2017-02-20 04:12:11
I'd shit bricks if raccoon ever becomes staffer
raccoon 2017-02-20 04:12:28
Fuchs: I miss the old Fuchs from season 3 who was always rallying against the establishment. Season 4 Fuchs is pretty mean.
BurningPrincess1 2017-02-20 04:12:40
PM me please, Tims_Tech , next time.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:12:52
okay BurningPrincess1 :)
BurningPrincess1 2017-02-20 04:12:58
Thanks.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:05
pm me too, Tims_Tech
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:07
baby
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:13:18
:P
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:37
if mods could read our pms...
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:39
oh boy
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:43
we'd be in jail
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:13:44
what?
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:49
nothing
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:13:53
I'm 15 years old sud0
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:13:55
:p
sud0 2017-02-20 04:13:58
oh shit.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:14:01
abort
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:14:08
I take no interest in your offer.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:14:49
it's funny how people just..
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:14:57
base their actions on the age of someone
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:14:57
:P
sud0 2017-02-20 04:16:13
yeah its funny. We all should be treated equally right
sud0 2017-02-20 04:16:20
age is just a number!
honey 2017-02-20 04:16:22
yeah people judge by age all the time.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:16:28
That's correct sud0
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:16:37
I experience that a lot honey
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:16:42
It's annoying.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:16:46
I mean it's not like young folks are mentally inmature
honey 2017-02-20 04:16:56
if i acted my age it would be a different story.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:17:03
sud0, That can differ.
opm 2017-02-20 04:17:32
tmw sud0 says he is not mentally immature
sud0 2017-02-20 04:17:43
if you acted your age you'd make me diner, honey
honey 2017-02-20 04:17:54
lol
sud0 2017-02-20 04:18:02
yet you're here
sud0 2017-02-20 04:18:09
:/
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:18:12
That's a strange statement sud0
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:18:31
How could age actually change the actions? sud0
sud0 2017-02-20 04:18:46
well, she's my mom
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:19:10
As long as I don't have any proof, I won't believe your statement.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:19:54
I'll get something to drink, I will be back in a few minutes.
sud0 2017-02-20 04:20:07
it is known
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:20:28
I think we can also cut the silly a tiny little down :)
sud0 2017-02-20 04:20:41
chocolate milk I assume, Tims_Tech
sud0 2017-02-20 04:20:44
Fuchs: ok, sorry
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:21:03
's fine
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:22:32
I'm back, I got cola because I like cola.
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:24:56
Hi. Says "tiny" is already in use. Any ideas why since user isn't present?
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:25:18
This is my nick. Registered.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:25:39
_tiny_, * tiny :No such nick/channel
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:25:56
* tiny is already in use. Retrying with _tiny_...
bertman 2017-02-20 04:26:41
possible to cloak ip here?
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:27:02
_tiny_, do /nick tiny now then
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:27:03
:p
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:27:06
bertman: yes, please verify your account first, though
Otis 2017-02-20 04:27:07
Highly possible after you verify your registration.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:27:14
bertman: also note that they don't hide your IP terribly well
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:27:25
tiny :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
genec 2017-02-20 04:27:33
_tiny_: then there's a guard on it
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:27:35
_tiny_, release the nick
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:27:35
:p
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:27:43
_tiny_: see /msg nickserv help release (do it twice, or first release, then regain)
bertman 2017-02-20 04:27:51
ok
mquin 2017-02-20 04:27:52
_tiny_: that's probably nickname protection working. Do '/msg NickServ regain tiny' to change to it
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:27:59
why is there a guard on it and what does it mean?
_tiny_ 2017-02-20 04:28:04
oh
tiny 2017-02-20 04:29:07
ok, thanks!
genec 2017-02-20 04:29:08
_tiny_: to expand mquin's statement, someone probably joined recently without properly identifying to your account. therefore the user was renamed and the protection was temporarily enabled
NoSu02 2017-02-20 04:29:20
trying to connect weechat through tor and sasl not sure what I'm doing wrong, checked my nick and password with success and hexchat, I'm probably missing something, https://freenode.net/news/tor-online tried two different ways: http://pastebin.com/ijPju0yG
tiny 2017-02-20 04:29:31
Ok. I forgot how to regain nick back.
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:29:31
bertman: yes, better, there you go, fresh handmade cloak, warm
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:29:34
<*status> Running for 2w 1d 21h 22m 20s
tiny 2017-02-20 04:29:34
Thanks for help.
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:29:36
YAY! :D
Della_ 2017-02-20 04:29:47
hi
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:29:54
my pi is keeping up with all the irc messages! :D
bertman 2017-02-20 04:31:48
thank you!
mquin 2017-02-20 04:33:53
NoSu02: what happens when you try to connect?
genec 2017-02-20 04:35:22
Tims_Tech: gotta love when the bouncer works well
Della_ 2017-02-20 04:36:47
I don't know why but I am not being able to access my username which is Della, it is a registered username and it says: "Della it is being used"
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:36:47
yes genec :D
NoSu02 2017-02-20 04:36:47
I guess that would help mquin one sec...
Otis 2017-02-20 04:36:47
There is a connection that is using Della as the nick.
Della_ 2017-02-20 04:36:47
I don't know which connection is doing so though, none of mine.
mquin 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Della_: do '/msg NickServ identify Della yourpassword', then '/msg NickServ release della' and '/msg NickServ regain della'
Otis 2017-02-20 04:36:47
You registered it but doesn't prevent anyone from using it if you aren't if you don't have nick protection enabled.
mquin 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Della_: do you use irccloud?
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:36:47
I'm quite addicted to IRC :p
NoSu02 2017-02-20 04:36:47
mquin says SASL authentication failed
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:36:47
I'm in 53 channels
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:36:47
on freenode
Della 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Thanks mquin.
Della 2017-02-20 04:36:47
That worked!
genec 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Della: see also /msg NickServ help set enforce
Della 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Thank you too mquin.
Della 2017-02-20 04:36:47
Done genec, thanks!
mquin 2017-02-20 04:36:47
NoSu02: that implies the tor bit is working. Try changing the mechanism to PLAIN and see if that works
NoSu02 2017-02-20 04:36:47
mquin ok one moment
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:37:09
I don't have a company yet..but since I already develop apps and work on projects, it would be nice to already have such a cloak
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:37:38
I also have a Youtube channel, I make videos on it, also called Tim's Tech
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:37:49
https://www.youtube.com/TimsTechOfficial
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:38:11
no for various reasons, first of all, _s would not work. Then: you'd need to register as a group, and for that, we tend to prefer at least some sort of off-IRC presence
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:38:36
okay..
Fuchs 2017-02-20 04:38:43
and last but not least, it should probably be based on a project, not a person :p
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:38:53
:p
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:38:58
okay..I understand
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:39:04
OMG..
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:39:09
almost 200 subs! :D
Tims_Tech 2017-02-20 04:39:15
196!!!! :D
NoSu02 2017-02-20 04:39:47
mquin PLAIN still does the same thing, I use the group nick for hexchat and it works fine but I will try anything, one moment
thumbs 2017-02-20 04:41:44
the PLAIN mechanism can use grouped nicknames, yes.
noob1337 2017-02-20 04:43:47
hi thumbs