genec 2017-01-29 08:48:00
kline: is a PM OK?
kline 2017-01-29 08:48:08
sure
ElDavo 2017-01-29 09:00:27
Whoops
c4757p 2017-01-29 09:04:37
hey e, mind a PM?
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:05:12
e: Might I recommend for the next freenode-seven update, that +C block both channel-wide CTCPs *and* NOTICEs ? Seems like the logical thing. I can't imagine any complaint over it.
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:05:41
hello raccoon
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:05:49
hello radialneon
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:05:52
no need to even waste another letter of the alphabet, or inform channel owners to update their flags
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:06:02
hi VletzaniaKalinko
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:06:19
you are good?
emerson 2017-01-29 09:06:32
raccoon: the complaint would be when a channel has a github bot that notices on commit/pr/etc
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:06:34
I'm better than good!
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:06:39
a have a lot of smile to give you raccoon
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:06:46
ok great
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:06:51
i am happy
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:06:57
emerson: the would -C then
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:06:59
i am happy for you
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:07:08
emerson: since that channel is already peaceful and non-disruptive
emerson 2017-01-29 09:07:17
raccoon: what if they want to block CTCP?
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:07:36
hello aemerson
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:07:53
raccoon i wait for TuxAnge
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:08:07
emerson: people block channel-wide CTCPs because they're highly visible, like channel-wide NOTICE. people can still send out individual /ctcps
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:08:24
and laowai and crankslider
emerson 2017-01-29 09:08:33
right, which is why you would want to block one but not the other
genec 2017-01-29 09:08:39
kline: as always, thank you.
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:08:56
emerson: that's feature creep. There's really no practical boots-on-the-ground reason why someone would block one and admit the other.
emerson 2017-01-29 09:09:06
i just gave you one
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:09:07
emerson: channel-wide CTCPs aren't like, some security risk, or something
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:09:08
raccoon and aemerson i leave the screen here for speaking
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:09:16
they're just annoying
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:09:20
la revedere pupic
emerson 2017-01-29 09:09:26
but i guess we aren't on the same page, so *shrug*
VletzaniaKalinko 2017-01-29 09:09:30
pupic aemerson pupic raccoon
c4757p 2017-01-29 09:09:49
raccoon: as an op, I like blocking annoying things :)
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:09:55
emerson: I suppose we might not be, unless you're being intentionally pedantic about it :) I can appreciate that too
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:10:40
I see it as a tradeoff. Channels that are -m allow channel-wide conversations AND channel-wide swearing and nickname highlight spam
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:10:50
can't always pick and choose
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:11:04
but it's a good trade off for +C
c4757p 2017-01-29 09:11:43
yeah but it's a tradeoff you're artificially forcing - you /can/ have and eat your cake here :P
genec 2017-01-29 09:11:45
raccoon: why not proposing a new flag to block channel-wide NOTICEs instead of extending +C?
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:11:59
s/flag/mode/
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:12:05
Days since raccoon's last stupid idea: 0
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:12:28
KindOne: that's from the Hulk, right?
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:12:35
genec: I think people complained there are already too many modes, and conflicting modes between networks.
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:13:09
Hi. Need help: How can I ban a user by his account name? For example, a user with the accounts nickname "foobar" changes his nicks every time he get kicked. How can I ban this users completeley?
genec 2017-01-29 09:13:11
thumbs: yes, meant mode.
genec 2017-01-29 09:13:21
Nerdmind: $a:account
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:13:21
genec: further, since arguably -most- channels that are already +C also desire the effects of channel-NOTICE blocking, they'd be protected without further incident
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:13:24
Nerdmind: $a:account
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:13:38
genec: instead of having to specifically opt in. Allow the 1 or 3 channels who don't want the new functionality to opt-out and -C.
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:13:50
KindOne: Hmm. Can you tell me the entire command? /mode #channel +b <-- and then?
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:14:06
Nerdmind: /mode #channel +b $a:KindOne
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:14:19
Thank you. I'll try it.
poutine 2017-01-29 09:14:23
they should make a usermode +💩 which replaces every character the user types with '💩'
binaryhermit 2017-01-29 09:14:29
lol
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:14:40
poutine, i second that idea
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:14:54
poutine: an irc client dev has that as an icon next to my nick
c4757p 2017-01-29 09:14:57
literal shitposting? I like it
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:15:14
genec: I'll have to do some research and find out exactly which of the 30,000 channels employ channel /notices for commit/pr/etc
katharee 2017-01-29 09:18:02
isn't there like a full staff list for freenode?
gry 2017-01-29 09:18:21
www.freenode,net/people has key people
genec 2017-01-29 09:18:35
katharee: "/who freenode/staff/*" enough?
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:18:44
katharee: and why do you ask?
katharee 2017-01-29 09:19:11
just curious. i couldn't find it anything on the website
katharee 2017-01-29 09:19:22
genec: oh thanks
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:19:34
thumbs hasn't your mother ever taught you not to answer a question with a question
poutine 2017-01-29 09:19:42
why is freenode so secretive about its staff ranks?
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:19:42
KindOne: Thank you very much. It works.
poutine 2017-01-29 09:19:46
what is there to hide there?
genec 2017-01-29 09:19:58
katharee: the command is listed in /topic it's generally a good idea to read /topic and entrymsg upon join
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:20:13
poutine I don't think freenode ranks their staff
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:20:20
katharee: staff are also +o here
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:20:22
they do
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:20:23
but lowkey
fractal 2017-01-29 09:20:35
how long must a channel be abandoned for before someone can attempt to have it released to be registered again?
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:20:47
fractal: # or ## ?
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:20:48
fractal, :(
katharee 2017-01-29 09:20:48
genec: oh.. my bad. i generally don't read channel topics as i have no reason to in 99% of channels i join
katharee 2017-01-29 09:20:59
it isn't really a habit
fractal 2017-01-29 09:21:13
KindOne: it's a #
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:21:14
Nobody reads the /topic!
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:21:24
what staff rank are you gitgud
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:21:51
;)
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:21:55
fractal: primary channel do not expire, so infinity
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:22:23
fractal: however if someone represents an on-topic group or project, staff can help in giving them access to it
fractal 2017-01-29 09:22:51
thumbs: thanks
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:22:54
duckgoose, am not in this
KindOne 2017-01-29 09:23:53
duckgoose: install gentoo while you wait
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:24:00
heres a question for you gitgud: why do staff quit so often
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:24:02
duckgoose: there's nothing wrong with answering with a question if the original intent seemed dubious.
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:06
duckgoose, they probably get yelled at and hate it
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:09
lol
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:21
or they get better things to do with their time
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:25:30
like get high?
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:25:33
or is that just me
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:33
perhaps
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:36
lol
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:25:46
perhaps they find a significant other
katharee 2017-01-29 09:26:30
will freenode ever mask ips instead of leaving them for everyone to see?
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:26:41
who knos
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:26:43
knows*
katharee 2017-01-29 09:26:50
it's kind of annoying to auto dc and rejoin a channel automatically w/ an ip showing not having identified for the nick
katharee 2017-01-29 09:27:01
it's weird they haven't
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:27:10
im sure they had the idea at one point
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:27:15
then went "nah" for some reason or other
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:27:28
katharee: you should use SASL
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:27:31
in any case you should use a vpn or a socks proxy or something
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:27:48
if you are concerned about tat
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:27:57
"‹katharee› it's kind of annoying to auto dc and rejoin a channel automatically w/ an ip showing not having identified for the nick" -- Use SASL!
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:28:02
oh
duckgoose 2017-01-29 09:28:09
nvm :(
gitgud 2017-01-29 09:28:13
perhaps sasl is your answer
genec 2017-01-29 09:28:22
katharee: after setting up SASL, set your client to enforce SASL and make it disconnect if authentication fails
katharee 2017-01-29 09:28:36
ah, i've never used SASL so i hadn't heard of it before
katharee 2017-01-29 09:28:40
okay, thanks
genec 2017-01-29 09:29:09
katharee: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:42:18
Hi. Another question: What are the minimal "permissions" for users on a ACCESS list who should be able to send messages and read the messages from others – just like a normal channel. "/msg ChanServ ACCESS #channel ADD username "?
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:43:11
Nerdmind: you don't actually have to add regular users to your access list
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:43:27
Nerdmind: but to answer your question, +e makes them exempt from +b, and that's all it do
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:43:44
(access mode +b and not /mode # +b)
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:43:45
raccoon: Hmm. I want to enable that the channel can only be joined by users who are listed on the access list.
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:43:55
then use +e
Azarbos 2017-01-29 09:44:06
How do i change the email I registered under? I had a typo in it?
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:44:06
and you can set the channel to RESTRICTED
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:44:30
Nerdmind: alternately you can set them +A and they can see the access list (if PRIVATE)
thumbs 2017-01-29 09:44:36
Azarbos: see /msg NickServ help drop, and re-register
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:44:43
"Restricts access to the channel to users on the access list. (Other users are kickbanned.)": Thats what I want.
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:44:52
+A and +e are both pretty innocuous
Nerdmind 2017-01-29 09:45:06
But all users who are on the access list should be able to send and read messages. :)
raccoon 2017-01-29 09:45:11
+t allows them to use CS TOPIC commands
