concen 2017-01-30 14:48:15
why aren't cloaks standard?
violetZzzZz 2017-01-30 14:48:36
Standard?
jack_rip_vim 2017-01-30 14:48:58
unoffice
ccc 2017-01-30 14:49:02
because its censored
concen 2017-01-30 14:49:08
would you prefer automatic?
ccc 2017-01-30 14:49:09
one child policy
jack_rip_vim 2017-01-30 14:49:55
:)
concen 2017-01-30 14:50:30
why are people's IP addresses available unless cloaked?
josspyker 2017-01-30 14:51:15
huh?
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:52:05
concen: why not?
concen 2017-01-30 14:52:25
why can everybody see everyone else's IP address unless unless it is cloaked?
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:52:42
concen: why not? What is the harm in exposing the IP address?
mst 2017-01-30 14:52:44
concen: to allow for a civil society where people unwilling to go to the trouble of registering are easily excluded if they troll
ccc 2017-01-30 14:52:50
this work?
concen 2017-01-30 14:52:51
that's the answer? why not? seriously?
ccc 2017-01-30 14:52:53
gofundme.com?
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:53:27
concen: seriously, what is the problem with exposing one's IP in the /whois information?
concen 2017-01-30 14:54:56
if it isn't a problem for you, then why are you hiding yours?
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:55:30
concen: I am not - this cloak is not hiding my IP, but was supposed to be a stop gap until I asked for a project cloak
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:55:57
concen: cloaks do not hide your IP - they merely show your affiliation to a project, or lack thereof
mst 2017-01-30 14:55:58
concen: I am currently IRC-ing from agaton.scsys.co.uk
ohnx 2017-01-30 14:56:18
concen: there are ways to find ip, cloaks don't do too much
concen 2017-01-30 14:56:23
i must have my terms wrong then, because your IP is definitely hidden from me, but others aren't
mst 2017-01-30 14:56:25
concen: so, no, it isn't a problem to me. why is it a problem for you?
concen 2017-01-30 14:56:51
give me your bank info please
concen 2017-01-30 14:57:06
what's the matter, got something to hide?
mst 2017-01-30 14:57:06
concen: false equivalence. piss off.
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:57:18
concen: now you're silly.
mst 2017-01-30 14:57:21
I have your rdns. you have mine.
mst 2017-01-30 14:57:23
we're even.
jcjordyn120 2017-01-30 14:57:25
no
rob0 2017-01-30 14:57:30
that is totally bogus as a comparison
VeGGeTTa 2017-01-30 14:57:30
o.0
mst 2017-01-30 14:57:33
what do you have to hide that scares you so much?
josspyker 2017-01-30 14:57:43
find another playground concen
mst 2017-01-30 14:57:44
why are you such a coward?
concen 2017-01-30 14:57:45
some people here are hiding their IPs, yet SOP seems to be they are visible
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:58:00
concen: cloaks do not hide one's IP.
mst 2017-01-30 14:58:02
concen: and yet when you asked, I told you mine, because my cloak is about showing affiliation
mst 2017-01-30 14:58:09
concen: cloaks don't hide IPs anyway
rob0 2017-01-30 14:58:13
Nobody in IRC can hide their IP
ohnx 2017-01-30 14:58:20
from opers :p
concen 2017-01-30 14:58:21
mst: i cannot see your rdns
concen 2017-01-30 14:58:28
we are not even
mst 2017-01-30 14:58:28
concen: I told you my rdns
mst 2017-01-30 14:58:47
my irc realname is my real name
ohnx 2017-01-30 14:58:48
concen: some people might want their ip hidden, but it's their business, and not yours
mst 2017-01-30 14:58:50
I am trivially findiable
mst 2017-01-30 14:59:01
if we aren't even, it's because you're incompetent
concen 2017-01-30 14:59:10
so why are people calling me a coward then?
thumbs 2017-01-30 14:59:17
concen: you can ignore those comments.
mst 2017-01-30 14:59:36
concen: because you want to hide and won't listen to anybody
mst 2017-01-30 14:59:48
concen: you know more about me than I know about you
mst 2017-01-30 14:59:54
concen: yet you claim we "aren't even"
ohnx 2017-01-30 15:00:20
concen: if you want a cloak, you can request one :)
concen 2017-01-30 15:00:30
who said i wanted to hide? why are you calling me a coward and putting words in my mouth?
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:00:46
concen: I think you can disengage from those comments and conversation
mst 2017-01-30 15:00:50
concen: then what's your objection to freenode policy?
jack_rip_vim 2017-01-30 15:01:01
said "cloak me, please!"
concen 2017-01-30 15:01:09
mst: you tell me your rdns but i have no way of knowing it's true
mst 2017-01-30 15:01:19
concen: then you don't know how to use google
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:01:22
concen: it's true. I know his rDNS too.
concen 2017-01-30 15:01:55
is this freenode policy, or a part of IRC?
mst 2017-01-30 15:02:01
there. now you can see it for real without needing basic google skills.
mst 2017-01-30 15:02:11
my rdns is currently visible.
mst 2017-01-30 15:02:18
check it now before I identify to show my affiliation.
jcjordyn120 2017-01-30 15:02:24
thumbs: I can't see yours.
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:02:40
jcjordyn120: you can see it trivially if you know how.
jcjordyn120 2017-01-30 15:03:06
thumbs: I see freenode/staff/thumbs
mst 2017-01-30 15:03:16
concen: there. done. you do know. now, what's your actual problem?
concen 2017-01-30 15:03:21
i guess i'm an incompetent because i can't see other people's IP addresses, sorry for asking
jcjordyn120 2017-01-30 15:03:25
* unaffiliated
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:03:27
concen: anyway, the freenode page is: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:03:50
concen: I would stop listening to the negative comments, it's not productive.
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:04:03
JustBerry: what do you want?
JustBerry 2017-01-30 15:04:40
thumbs: No need to message in channel. I was just saying thanks for helping all those freenode users everyday.
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:05:04
you're welcome, then.
ismdeep 2017-01-30 15:05:32
Tnx
x4b1d 2017-01-30 15:06:46
Hey requesting a cloak on my acct
x4b1d 2017-01-30 15:06:51
<3
concen 2017-01-30 15:16:51
hopefully nobody will jump down my throat on this question; is showing one's IP to all other users SOP in IRC in general, or just freenode?
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:17:21
concen: freenode.
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:17:27
concen: we can't speak for other networks.
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:17:59
concen: keep in mind, however, that no network can truly hide the IP of its users, even with cloaks.
Hello71 2017-01-30 15:18:18
the correcter answer is "the internet"
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:19:45
concen: so by connecting to an IRC network, you expose your IP by definition, unless you use tor
ccc 2017-01-30 15:20:03
k
concen 2017-01-30 15:20:03
I have no issues with sysops of a server seeing my IP address, but I find it strange that you let anyone see them as a default setting
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:20:17
concen: there is no concern with that approach.
ccc 2017-01-30 15:20:35
how can i ignore all messages from which has bot in their names
concen 2017-01-30 15:20:44
i run several high profile sites, so am quite familiar with the need to get rid of undesirables via their IP
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:20:46
ccc: depends on your client.
ccc 2017-01-30 15:20:56
how
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:21:02
ccc: what client are you using?
ccc 2017-01-30 15:21:17
i use xenoirc
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:21:26
ccc: does /help ignore work?
ccc 2017-01-30 15:22:56
nopers
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:23:08
ccc: does it give you an error?
gry 2017-01-30 15:23:27
ccc: where did you download your xenoirc from? I am unable to find any information on the web.
ccc 2017-01-30 15:23:45
its a sekrit
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:23:58
ccc: well good luck with that then.
Meioze 2017-01-30 15:39:11
hello
Guest92526 2017-01-30 15:39:36
hello
Lyrek 2017-01-30 15:40:05
hio!
aday 2017-01-30 15:40:21
Hello there! -- Can I request some help about nickserv and some registration stuffs?
MrZero 2017-01-30 15:40:41
shoot
aday 2017-01-30 15:41:28
my nick, <-- this one .... i'm pretty sure i registered it, but the sendpass command isn't emailing it back to me.. so i'm not sure (maybe its leased?)
Meioze 2017-01-30 15:41:38
I need registration?
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:42:24
Meioze: you do?
MrZero 2017-01-30 15:42:31
aday: not sure on that... I have always received the mail the few timews I have registered lately.
aday 2017-01-30 15:42:32
<-- already registered. aparently... sendpass doesn't seem to email it back to me tho .. hope someone can help :) :) :)
luisoliv 2017-01-30 15:42:34
guys, im a common windows pleb, i want to learn linux to hobby dev/learn about networking and probably a full time switch, so, should i go with mint (i already used it) go wqith Arch (because i like memes but not as deep as gentoo) or go with debian (more mature but more advanced) ?
ohnx 2017-01-30 15:43:03
##linux ?
luisoliv 2017-01-30 15:43:05
and no, im not going to ubuntu
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:43:19
luisoliv: try a few, and see which one you like better. Use a live cd
MrZero 2017-01-30 15:43:27
This is my first time on this server... I'm working on registereing at the moment. Been out of IRC for awhile and enjoying it again :)
luisoliv 2017-01-30 15:43:44
thumbs, i hate fiddeling with lives Cd/usb, i prefer install the real deal
luisoliv 2017-01-30 15:44:04
but again, installing is kind of tiresome since i have little free time nowadays
thumbs 2017-01-30 15:44:59
luisoliv: well, pick an option. Either install the full distro or use the live cd.
Wharncliffe 2017-01-30 15:45:12
aday: You've checked spam/junk folders?
