Staubsauger 2017-01-26 11:45:45
U hear cool music and cant remember the name -3rdpartylifesmatter-
bazhang 2017-01-26 11:46:17
I call it youtube
Staubsauger 2017-01-26 11:46:43
:D
vegii 2017-01-26 11:55:18
I can't connect on my quassel vps. Are the servers maybe feeling bad right now, or what could be the cause?
vegii 2017-01-26 11:55:47
Also, hello
vegii 2017-01-26 11:58:12
Oh, now I'm connected. Took some time and cycling servers... Dunno why, but solved now. Thanks.
mww113 2017-01-26 11:58:17
vegii: are you configured to connect to a specific server or are you just using irc.freenode.net?
mww113 2017-01-26 11:58:23
never mind then :)
Lisbelk 2017-01-26 12:04:02
mm
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:08:49
Dissapointed...
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:09:09
I'm considering if I continue to use frenode given what was just said in a channel
gry 2017-01-26 12:09:52
ask its channel ops to fix the issue ShakespeareFan00 ? does the problem look fixable that way ?
ilbelkyr 2017-01-26 12:09:54
well, there are tens of thousands of channels
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:10:45
gry: When the channel is ##politics and you've had run-ins with the ops the channel before - No
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:11:22
For policy reasons I am not prepared to give reasons in open channel
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:11:50
but if a staffer wants a fuller explanation I am open to PM or /query
gry 2017-01-26 12:12:06
ShakespeareFan00: if you have channel improvement ideas but aren't heard well, perhaps you want to find a likeminded person in the channel who is more capable of influencing the situation (finds ops more approachable, can get people to change how they behave, etc)
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:12:38
gry: That's good advice, but the nature of the comments, haven't convinced me
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:12:46
I don't have to use freenode
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:13:34
and may encourage the projects I support that do to possibly migrate to their own IRC for additional reasons
gry 2017-01-26 12:13:37
typically people find value in a primary group or a few, but if you don't, then either finding one or giving up are the two available options
gry 2017-01-26 12:13:52
just don't join that channel. join the channels which you like
gry 2017-01-26 12:14:12
in a while, you'll find yourself more composed and more capable of finding whom to work it out with
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:14:16
gry: As I said the nature of the comments was fairly strong
gry 2017-01-26 12:15:00
I don't see a problem with that. people say various things but still remain to be people, meaning they're open to being influenced
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:15:31
gry: We'll have to agree to disagree on that :)
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:16:18
And as I said earlier given their nature, I'm not prepared to reveal more about the comments concerned in open channel
violet 2017-01-26 12:16:32
ShakespeareFan00: cool nick
violet 2017-01-26 12:16:50
I share the frustration i left many times because of evolv. Be well
honey 2017-01-26 12:18:10
its politics, what did you expect?
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:18:13
it's a FOSS network first
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:18:28
##politics should not even be here
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:18:56
although a ##vim-emacs channel would be fun
violet 2017-01-26 12:19:08
lol
kvothe 2017-01-26 12:19:47
adsf
kvothe 2017-01-26 12:19:52
whoops sorry
Platonides 2017-01-26 12:21:04
if it has been unused for so long, it could be dropped so you could register it
Platonides 2017-01-26 12:22:01
your "long, long, long time ago" was 2h 42m ago
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:25:58
bazhang : ##politics exists for a reason though... mostly so the rants can be moved there from other channels
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:26:14
not really
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:26:34
most people control their rants
honey 2017-01-26 12:26:48
as if.
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:26:52
stepping away from the keyboard is the best solution
binaryhermit 2017-01-26 12:27:02
I'm guessing ##politics causes a larger than average number of issues requiring network op attention
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:27:19
the most crying comes about that
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:27:49
binaryhermit: Suprisingly the networks ops let the channel be
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:27:58
the problem is the idea that irc has free speech
mww113 2017-01-26 12:28:00
Speaking of dropping channels, could ##mww113 be dropped?
binaryhermit 2017-01-26 12:28:03
wasn't aware
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:28:03
Most of the time... It is ##politics after all
gry 2017-01-26 12:28:08
freenode staff aren't investing much time watching secondary channels
gry 2017-01-26 12:28:13
it's not their primary interest
mww113 2017-01-26 12:28:15
I had to re-register my nick a while ago and so I lost control of it
gry 2017-01-26 12:28:21
only if the channel is really bad, or spills into other channels
gry 2017-01-26 12:28:39
it seems to vaguely succeed at not spilling, and it's only half-bad, so they let it run
bazhang 2017-01-26 12:28:49
and the sense of entitlement that leaves one nearly breathless
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:28:51
gry: My understanding is that network ops only become involved if it's a legal matter.
gry 2017-01-26 12:28:58
where a user from there starts entering other channels and sending racist spam, the user gets removed
gry 2017-01-26 12:29:05
but ##politics doesn't seem to be a big source of that
ShakespeareFan00 2017-01-26 12:29:46
Or if it's an issue of network wide disruption ( for policy reasons I won't be giving examples here)
gry 2017-01-26 12:29:46
freenode staff also ban flood in any channels where their hostmask has been given access to, and ban any user if they're being a trouble across many channels
gry 2017-01-26 12:29:52
yes network wide issues
gry 2017-01-26 12:30:31
they definitely can't watch a user being mildly annoying, or making a threat (or multiple threats) which aren't sufficiently disturbing, or fail to reach a network level
keepguessing 2017-01-26 12:43:54
Is there a way to use nginx as a reverse proxy for docker daemon?
keepguessing 2017-01-26 12:44:02
ah wrong channel
