Speiros 2017-03-01 05:46:15
Does anyone have information as to what a bot attack is in, as regards people coming into a room, and what difference there is with people all coming in at once?
felixjet 2017-03-01 05:47:29
a bot attack is something intentional and malicious
felixjet 2017-03-01 05:47:41
thats the difference
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:47:58
felixjet Ok. How does a bot send people to a room in the first place?
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:48:07
Or other bots, I guess.
felixjet 2017-03-01 05:48:13
because flooding a channel with 100000 people or 100000 bots is just the same
rob0 2017-03-01 05:48:20
Hang around here some days, you will see a bot attack before long. Generally they have atypical nicks (random-generated) and may come from the same hostmask or from a distributed botnet.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:48:25
felixjet So it does happen?
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:48:33
Okay.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:48:39
Good to know rob0.
felixjet 2017-03-01 05:48:53
also that
rob0 2017-03-01 05:49:01
seems like a lot of times the nicks are all the same length, also.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:49:42
Interesting. I didn't know that bots could make so many accounts. Actually, I didn't think they could make any at all, but had to be made by users on their behalf.
rob0 2017-03-01 05:49:59
they're usually NOT account
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:50:04
Speiros: most of those attacks are not actual accounts. Just multiple clients.
rob0 2017-03-01 05:50:14
they're usually NOT accounts, they are just unidentified nicks
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:50:57
Ah, yes. Sorry, I remember now that I used to just come in willy-nilly. I forgot about that kind of signing in.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:51:09
Thans felixjet rob0 and thumbs.:)
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:52:12
Maybe a registered user pass is required after all in the room.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:53:25
Do they communicate, or just swamp people? I mean by communicate, respond and answer to keywords.
nemecy 2017-03-01 05:53:29
im not bot Speiros lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:53:52
Serious? Sorry.
nemecy 2017-03-01 05:53:58
d:
rob0 2017-03-01 05:54:08
If a channel has "/mode +q $~a" you silence unidentified nicks.
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:54:44
Speiros: how they control their bots isn't that important.
rob0 2017-03-01 05:54:52
Often the bot attacks here will start spewing childish junk and all get klined by Sigyn.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:54:54
rob0 So in an emergency, I could type that command?
niko 2017-03-01 05:55:35
Speiros: /quit
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:55:41
thumbs Yeah, just wondering how it is, to get a heads-up on handling the problem.
gumi 2017-03-01 05:55:41
hi there, may I get a cloak, please?
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:55:53
niko how would that help?
rob0 2017-03-01 05:56:00
Speiros, for a busy channel, that may be what you want for normal operations. Also for a private channel.
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:56:00
Wouldn't that just boot me?
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:56:28
rob0 Ok
rob0 2017-03-01 05:56:33
Speiros, indeed, niko was trolling you. :)
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:56:53
niko Thanks man...
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:56:57
Speiros: so you need help with moderating a channel when a flood attack occurs?
niko 2017-03-01 05:57:00
gumi: please use your cloaked account
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:57:38
Speiros: for one, the flood may occur in other channel, and staff have measures in place to kill those. if it's limited to your channel, you can set +r, or +j
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:57:49
*channels
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:58:23
thumbs I see. I might add those commands to my list, so I can copy/paste.
gumi 2017-03-01 05:58:41
niko, this is my new account, I'm no longer gonna use the old one
niko 2017-03-01 05:58:47
+r prevent them to join, if they are already in channel +q $~a works
niko 2017-03-01 05:59:10
gumi: i suggest to group this nick to your old account and ask for cloak update
gumi 2017-03-01 05:59:19
I can do that?
gumi 2017-03-01 05:59:23
ok, sure, thanks
niko 2017-03-01 05:59:32
see /msg nickserv help drop and /msg nickserv help group
Speiros 2017-03-01 05:59:34
Yeah, good strategy too niko.
thumbs 2017-03-01 05:59:52
Speiros: +j 5:10 would prevent big bursts
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:00:10
thumbs Ok, true.
niko 2017-03-01 06:00:10
the only downside of +j is when netsplit occurs
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:00:18
niko: indeed.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:00:30
Speiros: consider setting a +f channel in those cases
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:00:41
What happens then? With netsplit?
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:00:49
Speiros: i.e. +f ##yourchannel-overflow
niko 2017-03-01 06:01:09
Speiros: users triggers j limits
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:01:25
Ah.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:01:50
but an overflow channel is usually a good fallbak
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:02:05
thumbs With one what happens, as opposed to without one?
gumi 2017-03-01 06:02:22
ok so that's done, may I get a cloak update please?
niko 2017-03-01 06:02:55
gumi, cloak updated
gumi 2017-03-01 06:03:00
thanks!
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:03:11
Speiros: without one, users won't be able to join the channel, akin to having +r and the user not being identified in time
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:03:47
hello.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:04:04
Sculptor: hello.
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:06
why is #electronics invite only
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:04:10
thumbs How does the fallback channel work? Can they still chat from a linked room?
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:12
something is going on
niko 2017-03-01 06:04:20
Sculptor: try ##electronics
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:04:22
Sculptor: because the actual channel is ##electronics
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:26
right
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:29
thanks
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:46
Cannot join ##electronics (You are banned).
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:04:48
Speiros: you can +m the overflow channel, or not. It's up to you.
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:04:49
ok, so that's it
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:05:05
##electronics is in my autojoin list. can someone check who banned me, in the ban list
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:05:07
Ban against *!*r@* in ##electronics matches Sculptor!~Sculptor@cable-188-2-239-151.dynamic.sbb.rs
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:05:19
yes, but who issued that ban
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:05:20
tawr set that ban, so ask him.
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:05:23
i want to ask why
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:05:29
thanks
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:05:40
Sculptor: plus, you need to identify to services to speak there.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:06:00
Speiros: if you +m the overflow channel, set a topic and/or entrymsg to that effect.
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:06:16
i just did. thanks
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:06:53
thumbs, i hope tawr is not a bot
rob0 2017-03-01 06:07:02
wow, that is a strange ban
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:07:07
Sculptor: with an unaffiliated cloak, unlikely.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:07:26
thumbs I see. I get the gist of it, but the proof I guess will come when/if it is needed. Thanks heaps folks eh:) thumbs, niko, rob0, felixjet.
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:07:27
i'm in. thanks guys
Sculptor 2017-03-01 06:07:29
bye
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:07:29
come back soon we'll wait you :)
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:07:45
sure
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:07:45
nemecy are you sure you're not a bot?
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:03
not
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:08:06
bye
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:07
come back soon we'll wait you :)
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:08:10
???
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:10
i write this some nights ago
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:21
im human
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:27
lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:08:33
Yes, I believe you are an android!!!:)
nemecy 2017-03-01 06:08:38
d:
barstard 2017-03-01 06:08:49
Hello everyone
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:08:58
At least you're not a flamethrowing darlik.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:09:01
lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:09:04
Hello
barstard 2017-03-01 06:09:17
Hi how are ya?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:09:24
Good:)
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:09:56
lol Thanks for the help again.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:10:20
What's a darlik
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:10:28
Dr Who.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:10:33
Oh
Hecate 2017-03-01 06:10:37
Something you look up on a search engine
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:10:50
that'd be a Dalek, isn't it?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:10:54
It is a robot which rolls around saying "Exterminate", and causes people to have phobias of garbage bins.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:11:00
Probably is Fuchs
MetaNova 2017-03-01 06:11:01
erm
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:11:04
My bad
barstard 2017-03-01 06:11:04
Hecate what u on about?
MetaNova 2017-03-01 06:11:05
Speiros: not darlek
MetaNova 2017-03-01 06:11:06
dalek
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:11:20
Yes true.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:11:21
Oh
barstard 2017-03-01 06:11:32
What's a search engine
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:11:40
That's how it is spelled.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:11:43
Briggs n Stratton?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:12:08
barstard It's what you do when your car is sitting up in a weird position, and the suspension seems to be elongated.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:12:30
OK got it thank you
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:12:37
lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:12:40
:)
barstard 2017-03-01 06:12:41
:)
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:13:11
It's a bit like a darlik
barstard 2017-03-01 06:13:56
U fkn with me?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:13:58
Yep...
barstard 2017-03-01 06:14:07
Where ya from?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:14:15
Aust here.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:14:25
Me too
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:14:38
lol nice one. What part of here?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:14:56
Melbourne
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:15:01
Me too man.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:15:16
Nice bro
barstard 2017-03-01 06:15:38
I'm in a real shithole though
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:15:54
To be honest, the Briggs n Stratton made me suspect as such.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:15:54
Okay.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:15:54
See if u can guess??
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:15:54
Nope.
d3k0y 2017-03-01 06:15:54
What's up
Introoter 2017-03-01 06:15:59
the sky
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:16:09
I'm not a local.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:16:21
???
rob0 2017-03-01 06:16:22
EXTERMINATE
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:16:24
Just been here for a few years, and even then on and off.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:16:45
You know of dandenong?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:16:48
Yeah
barstard 2017-03-01 06:16:54
Lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:17:02
City here.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:17:10
Inner city, but the edges.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:17:10
I'm here
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:17:21
Nice. I haven't been there yet.
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:17:24
haha
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:17:26
nicee
barstard 2017-03-01 06:17:29
It sux
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:17:41
The mountains look good from here.
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:17:46
where could I find a lobby of security pros? (hackers)
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:17:57
i tried #hacktheplanet
barstard 2017-03-01 06:17:58
Where?
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:18:01
but no luck -_-
Pici 2017-03-01 06:18:07
samsepi0l: Theres ##security
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:18:19
invite only
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:18:21
none on freenode
barstard 2017-03-01 06:18:28
What ppl do in those channels?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:18:28
City barstard.
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:18:29
know where I could find one?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:18:50
Nice u got apartment?
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:18:51
there are no channels on freenode with "security pros"
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:19:04
only know-it-all brats that don't really know anything
Pici 2017-03-01 06:19:07
samsepi0l: it is not invite only, you need to be registered and identified to nickserv to join.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:19:08
maybe ##cybersecurity
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:19:12
do you know of any serverswith something like that?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:19:35
Darknet
barstard 2017-03-01 06:19:39
???
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:19:46
nope #cybersecurity is empty
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:19:47
samsepi0l If you do a /msg alis list you'll get a list of channel names that might help
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:19:53
##
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:20:02
cool, thanks
barstard 2017-03-01 06:20:09
Samesapi why u want those chains?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:20:13
Chans
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:20:24
help me
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:20:26
To learn and practice.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:20:34
Guest16784: with?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:20:39
Hi guest
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:20:39
barstard Is it something you're interested in?
barstard 2017-03-01 06:21:05
Yes but I don't get it
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:21:17
Ok...have a look at cybrary.it
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:21:17
need help with finding out the thing I need help with
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:21:24
I am stuck
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:21:26
It's got plenty of free courses, and other info.
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:21:33
Guest16784: perhaps you ought not to waste our time.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:21:48
But what would it be used for?
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:22:04
I am sorry, i mean I really need help
Pici 2017-03-01 06:22:07
with?
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:22:10
barstard If you want to keep your computer/server safe, it is good to know how it gets attacked.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:22:13
OK guest
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:22:16
Guest16784 if you state your problem we might help you, if not you'll be ignored
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:22:17
how do I verify myself here?
thumbs 2017-03-01 06:22:25
Guest16784: then state a sensible question.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:22:31
Yeah :)
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:22:40
is there a place I can ask for computational stuff
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:22:50
like algorithms etc
barstard 2017-03-01 06:22:53
Yes
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:22:58
barstard That's where ethical hacking comes in. Penetration testing and the such is designed to learn flaws etc.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:23:01
Walmart
barstard 2017-03-01 06:23:19
For hacking?
Pici 2017-03-01 06:23:21
Guest16784: ##programming might be a good start
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:23:28
It's legal to hack your own computer, or one that you have permission to do so with. But only within the parameters of what is required.
Guest16784 2017-03-01 06:23:30
@Pici thank you
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:23:39
Guest16784: there are some channels on programming and similar, see the one Pici wrote, also see /msg alis help list on how to find channels
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:23:50
samsepi0l: hi, verify as in?
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:23:57
laws are tricky
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:24:02
by the ChanServ user
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:24:09
so I can join certain lobbies on Freenode
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:24:31
samsepi0l: do you already have a registered nick? Else see /msg nickserv help register
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:24:37
a warning about programming / security related channels
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:24:45
samsepi0l: note that your current nick already is registered, but I could free it up for you if you want to use that one
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:24:49
most people there are very cocky and hardly offer any advice
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:24:56
please do, thanks
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:24:58
continue at your own risk
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:25:07
There are websites that give the education.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:25:15
Some for free.
barstard 2017-03-01 06:25:15
Lol duckgoose
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:25:21
samsepi0l: okay, you can now register it, see the help I mentioned
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:25:29
thanks pal
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:25:38
especially security related channels
Fuchs 2017-03-01 06:25:41
you're welcome
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:27:05
barstard Consider that website I posted earlier. It has a lot of computer related stuff, from knowing the parts on a computer, to advanced testing.
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:27:26
niceee
barstard 2017-03-01 06:27:27
Thanks
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:28:07
link to me this website Speiros
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:28:21
cybrary.it
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:29:10
v_v
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:29:23
the fact they spell open with a 3 is off putting
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:29:41
For me it is a goldmine of knowledge.
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:30:06
just download metasploit
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:30:10
thats what kids do now
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:30:17
lol
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:30:27
That's one of many things...not that I know how to use them.
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:30:52
well good luck. use your knowledge for good ;)
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:31:09
True man. For defence of people too. Good people, that is.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:31:49
But in time, as I barely know my way around a computer...in a sense at least.
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:34:20
I recommend beginning with TCP and UDP
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:35:12
I did a few small ones, and am chipping my way through the CompTIA's. Slowly, but establishing a decent base.
Speiros 2017-03-01 06:35:58
I did the TCP, but the test was different than what the subject matter was in the course. A bit of an error somewhere I think.
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:38:40
how do I do that
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:38:43
* koracain fires torpeedos
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:38:50
like this dude said in the chat
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:38:52
?
MetaNova 2017-03-01 06:38:59
samsepi0l: /me does something
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:39:08
lol
samsepi0l 2017-03-01 06:39:14
cool, thanks @MetaNova
MetaNova 2017-03-01 06:39:33
quite welcome
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:39:44
you do /raw privmsg #channel :[0x01]ACION fires torpeedos[0x01]
duckgoose 2017-03-01 06:39:55
this is the easy way
