irc2000 2017-03-05 00:14:12
The halting problem means that there are computer programs that no humans can decide (assumed that brains can be emulated which they should).
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:14:49
that's not what it means
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:15:13
the halting problem means that there is no general-purpose algorithm which can decide purely by static analysis whether or not a given program will halt.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:15:37
ryonaloli: that's what I said
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:15:54
you said "that no human can decide" which is false
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:15:57
ryonaloli: I'm saying that it must mean that there are algorithms that no humans can decide
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:16:02
that's not true either
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:16:11
ryonaloli: I'm right, humans are no such general algorithm.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:16:15
it just means that there is no single, general-purpose, universal algorithm which can decide it.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:16:21
humans are not an algorithm.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:16:58
ryonaloli: a human fits in a computer. That's a program. No such program can decide all algorithms, hence there are algorithms that can't be decided by humans.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:17:01
emulating the human brain does not give you a single algorithm.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:17:29
ryonaloli: a digital brain is a program regardless of how you see it
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:17:43
it's a turing-machine and no more
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:17:53
at most it's the same or less
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:18:26
if the claim is just that it is possible to make a program that a human being cannot decode in order to tell if it halts, then sure, that's true.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:18:31
but that's not what the definition of the halting problem is.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:19:07
in all seriousness, are you a retard?
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:19:57
lol
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:20:16
if you're gonna go that childish direction, it won't end well for you
jacqueline[m] 2017-03-05 00:20:38
STAAAAHP!
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:21:09
ryonaloli: not? what are you going to do, ignore me? ban me?
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:21:21
^confirmed ng
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:21:28
irc2000: no, just laugh at you from all the hilarious things you've said in ##security and ##crypto
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:21:30
ryonaloli: you won't kill my kids, that's for sure, they're stronger and smarter than you are. So I don't really care
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:21:45
ryonaloli: go ahead, I don't see how that affects me.
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:21:54
OPS
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:21:58
get these idiots to STFUU
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:22:00
asap
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:22:00
ryonaloli: point and laugh at stuff, why would I care
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:22:14
!ops
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:22:21
operators
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:22:22
Igor-franklin: could you not
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:22:31
we got two faggots in here bitching
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:22:36
the rather pathetic and constant misunderstandings you've had regarding even the most basic CS concepts (i could go on. point is, you're the last person who can call me a retard)
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:22:38
there are enough spammers here with ryonaloli already.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:22:40
Igor-franklin: don't worry, i'm done now
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:23:11
ryonaloli: the halting problem isn't one of the most basic CS concepts.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:23:24
ryonaloli: and I get its implications right, you don't.
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:23:26
you ever notice these kids that get molested, you look at their faces...they are different
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:23:30
i wasn't talking about the halting problem
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:23:33
it's like the gay turned them
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:23:39
lol Igor-franklin
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:24:15
ryonaloli knows what i'm talking about
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:26:40
Igor-franklin: yep, he molests kids and he was molested as a child
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:26:55
lol what
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:27:03
wow, irc2000 can't let it go
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:27:06
he knows it all about the animals and insects too
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:27:33
Igor-franklin: he molests shrimp eggs.. how sick is that
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:27:33
ryonaloli says he's got a little girl and runs a child pornography website
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:27:37
i can't tell if irc2000 is just angry because he disagrees with me on such a sad little issue as the definition of the halting problem, or if he knows me from somewhere else and he doesn't like me for some reaosn.
noob 2017-03-05 00:27:42
Ryonanoli is a trool /ignore him pls
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:27:42
Igor-franklin: wait what
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:27:55
bruh you already admitted to these things
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:28:03
Igor-franklin: i do not have any child pornography websites
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:28:08
nor do i possess any child pornography
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:28:11
you said you were going to run one
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:28:16
no i didn't
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:28:23
ryonaloli: yes you did
noob 2017-03-05 00:28:26
you do
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:28:27
oh lord, anyone with logs can look it up
noob 2017-03-05 00:28:28
i bet
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:28:30
lmao
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:28:36
ok so these are sock puppets
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:28:45
meaning what?
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:29:00
are you opal? cooper?
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:06
you said you were going to run a Child Porn website like two months ago
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:13
then you stopped coming on irc regularly
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:29:15
ryonaloli: your kind doesn't belong here
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:18
prob for security reasons
keko 2017-03-05 00:29:19
who is opal now
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:29:24
Igor-franklin: i have literally never said i would run a child porn website.
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:37
so you're saying someone was on your nickname?
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:29:49
if you have logs of someone with my nickname saying that, please show me.
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:55
see what happens when you get drunk bro?
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:29:58
running your lips
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:29:58
and tell me if they were identified as my nick.
keko 2017-03-05 00:29:59
is opal wowaname
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:02
i do not drink.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:03
keko: yes
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:13
but i don't think this is him anyway.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:26
maybe cooper (some stalker who goes around talking shit about me)
keko 2017-03-05 00:30:26
what nick is he under now
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:30:26
well whatever the case may be
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:26
idk
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:30:37
someone from that nickname said they were possibly going to run a child pornography website
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:30:47
which i thought was a bold claim to make in a public forum
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:50
Igor-franklin: under what context?
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:30:57
on irc? this channel? to whom?
noob 2017-03-05 00:31:02
someone queit that troll ryonaloli
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:31:06
i forget which channel
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:31:24
the context was someone asked you to run it or something?
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:31:33
what
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:31:40
Lol what
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:31:54
idk, someone is running them
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:32:15
wait are you talking about rizon? someone asked me to run an imageboard that used to get child porn spam on it and i said i couldn't because i wasn't gonna pay for it. but that wasn't on this server.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:32:27
and that certainly wasn't me running or saying i would run a child porn site.
noob 2017-03-05 00:32:48
gosh he is a pedo too
noob 2017-03-05 00:33:04
someone get his IP and report him to the local authorities
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:33:08
lmao
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:33:26
that guy is slicker than a wet cunt
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:33:30
you can't get his I.P.
noob 2017-03-05 00:33:31
im out this is digusting
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:33:49
Igor-franklin: do i know you by another nick?
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:34:05
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:34:18
heh
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:34:23
ryonaloli: you're a fat, ugly pedo
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:34:34
lol @ these gays
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:34:34
irc2000: gr8 b8
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:34:39
that think if you are good looking and younger
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:34:42
you can be a pedo
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:34:48
it's srsly a thing
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:34:49
ewww
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:35:23
i know a canadian pedophile idiot who thought he could not get caught because he was attractive. he thought if he was caught, the newspapers would all defend him.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:35:37
i wonder if he's sleeping with bubba yet.
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:35:44
i guess the biggest thing in hollywood is to groom boys like 13-16
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:35:50
then take advantage of them
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:36:33
anyway, Igor-franklin i'd appreciate it if you actually had logs before you accuse me of things, and before you bring your sockpuppets in to samefag and do the same. and if someone using my nick actually said that, please whois them and log it. i can recognize my own style of writing and recognize most stalkers.
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:36:57
that'd be better than baseless accusations
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:37:07
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:37:14
lol
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:37:20
making me laugh
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:37:26
irc2000: i am a security consultant. i know a lot of them.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:37:28
" i wonder if he's sleeping with bubba yet." is exactly what a pedophile would say
keko 2017-03-05 00:37:28
cut it out
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:37:30
from all countries.
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:37:45
ryonaloli: so you're a part of an international pedophile ring?
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:37:51
who could have thought..
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:37:57
irc2000: yes that's exactly what i said
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:38:01
bet it has some perks
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:38:06
or it will in a few years!
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:38:09
just kidding
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:38:28
Igor-franklin: no i'm still stuck on my bronze membership fee :(
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:38:58
s/fee//
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:39:05
life aint fair
keko 2017-03-05 00:39:56
how about stfu
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:40:13
keko: fair enough
irc2000 2017-03-05 00:42:01
there's no equivalent to solving system of equations but for algorithms? To efficiently list all algorithms that yields output X after Y iterations with input T?
Igor-franklin 2017-03-05 00:44:36
oldfag alert
ryonaloli 2017-03-05 00:45:10
irc2000: if there was, life would be much easier. you'd also be able to bypass any trapdoor function.
