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Thursday, March 2, 2017

#freenode channel featuring gry, allicat, ZikZak, ragazor, funfunctor1, xynashi, and 17 others.

dax 2017-03-02 11:46:50
laowai: do you mean /msg nickserv info
dax 2017-03-02 11:46:54
or some other info
dax 2017-03-02 11:47:37
uh
dax 2017-03-02 11:47:42
you do /msg nickserv info laowai or whatever
dax 2017-03-02 11:47:49
and then nickserv is all HERE IS SOME INFO ON LAOWAI
dax 2017-03-02 11:47:54
that is how it works
gry 2017-03-02 11:48:17
i think just '/msg nickserv info' shows info on the current nick
dax 2017-03-02 11:49:05
gry: does it give you gry or Gryllida?
dax 2017-03-02 11:49:14
gry: 'cause i thought it was account but now that i think about it i'm unsure
gry 2017-03-02 11:49:31
it outputs information on gry (account Gryllida)
gry 2017-03-02 11:49:57
if I nick dax_, it'll show me your info i think (information on dax_ (account dax))
dax 2017-03-02 11:50:08
heh, today i learrned
BillyCrook 2017-03-02 11:50:17
@dax ok so i nuked config, reloaded, /network add freenodeed, then ran the commands on https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi http://pastebin.centos.org/68726/ is what I got
gry 2017-03-02 11:50:30
granted, your info won't show to me as well as mine; because i'm not logged in, so i won't see your email and the like
gry 2017-03-02 11:50:41
so when people use their own nicks and are logged in, they usually see it more properly
allicat 2017-03-02 11:51:12
Sigyn left our channel and dint say even say goodbye
allicat 2017-03-02 11:51:22
i'm here to complain or something
dax 2017-03-02 11:51:36
BillyCrook: BCrookAtRA is a 6 year old channel last logged into over a year ago. Are you sure it's you? If so, are you sure the password's correct?
allicat 2017-03-02 11:51:43
never mind, i forgot i gave up complaining
dax 2017-03-02 11:52:16
BillyCrook: I, uh, it's been a while, so I assume/hope that's the username you gave it
dax 2017-03-02 11:52:26
(and that the * is hiding the password or something)
dax 2017-03-02 11:52:48
BillyCrook: and by channel I mean account. allicat tripped me up :P
dax 2017-03-02 11:53:38
allicat: she does that sometimes. if you actually care, I can check why, but the public answer is probably going to be uninformative
allicat 2017-03-02 11:53:55
i think Sigyn miss us eventually and return
allicat 2017-03-02 11:54:46
it's gotta be fun lightening klining naughty users
BillyCrook 2017-03-02 11:55:01
I did register that nick about 6 years ago. It's in my lastpass.
allicat 2017-03-02 11:55:31
three nick purges since then most likely
BillyCrook 2017-03-02 11:55:37
I intended to use BillyCrook for personal chat BCrookAtRA for work related
allicat 2017-03-02 11:55:38
at least two
dax 2017-03-02 11:55:51
BillyCrook: might want to /msg nickserv identify BCrookAtRA passwordhere and check whether that works
dax 2017-03-02 11:55:57
(and then re-identify to your usual account when done testing)
dax 2017-03-02 11:56:30
'cause if not, there's the problem. if it does work, i am rapidly running out of competence
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:56:34
how many channels can Sigyn be in?
allicat 2017-03-02 11:57:11
all of them
dax 2017-03-02 11:57:25
I would say 57849, but she'd probably get a bit under-performant before then
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:57:59
that's not even a magic number!
dax 2017-03-02 11:58:21
It was the number of channels on freenode, until a minute ago :P
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:58:23
oh, channels formed :)
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:58:28
2 new ones since then!
bcrook 2017-03-02 11:58:39
oh my god. It was the password. @dax so sorry for wasting everyone's time here
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:58:50
I wonder what happens when we break 65537
dax 2017-03-02 11:59:08
bcrook: no worries, there were actually two issues and we found an issue with freenode.net documentation, so I am happy :)
Raccoon 2017-03-02 11:59:13
it'll be like Y2K again
bcrook 2017-03-02 11:59:21
though actually wait now my user name is showing up as bcrook instead of the atra login
allicat 2017-03-02 11:59:29
don't hold your breath
dax 2017-03-02 11:59:37
bcrook: you're currently logged in to BCrookAtRA, so nick being wrong is unrelated and probably some irssi setting
dax 2017-03-02 12:00:06
foo1234: /msg nickserv help sendpass, poke in here again if you get stuck with that
dax 2017-03-02 12:00:28
bcrook: possibly /set nick, not sure
allicat 2017-03-02 12:00:35
you could use a breath mint too
allicat 2017-03-02 12:00:53
what have uuu been eating
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:01:52
well he is a raccoon...
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:02:11
57841 channels formed, 6102 with 10+ users. (10.5%)
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:02:41
allicat: https://youtu.be/DVfMGBKVBMM
allicat 2017-03-02 12:03:41
my mom says i can't click links on here anymore
noob 2017-03-02 12:03:54
hah
LjL 2017-03-02 12:03:55
dax / Fuchs, i think either (or both?) of you are familiar with deadsquirrel and his various other names. he randomly started PM-spamming me, so i set myself +g, so he's now gone on to spamming ##francais publicly instead
dax 2017-03-02 12:04:33
LjL: Fuchs is, I'm not unfortunately
dax 2017-03-02 12:04:46
or fortunately, take your pick
LjL 2017-03-02 12:06:02
dax, well that depends on how lucky you feel when you meet new ban-evading trolls, but anyway, i guess it's good enough if he takes the clue from seeing you join, for this time around
dax 2017-03-02 12:06:53
*nod* that is my hope
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:07:40
dax: How many channels are there +s with 100+ users?
LjL 2017-03-02 12:08:11
isn't the point of them being +s that he won't tell you
mniip 2017-03-02 12:08:15
that's gotta be at least 3
dax 2017-03-02 12:08:25
LjL makes an excellent point.
dax 2017-03-02 12:08:34
Yes, there are probably at least 3.
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:08:55
LjL: the point of +s is not create mystery and wonder about their existence, but to shield their identity.
dax 2017-03-02 12:09:12
more than 60, so I am too lazy to figure out a way to do it that isn't alis
LjL 2017-03-02 12:09:14
well... they do exist. i can confirm their existence.
dax 2017-03-02 12:09:28
(this is not an invitation for followup questions with slightly-changed parameters)
dax 2017-03-02 12:10:09
hi Astronaut
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:10:30
wow, more than 60
LjL 2017-03-02 12:10:31
dax, this is unrelated, but, how many public channels are there compared to the total of channels on freenode?
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:10:34
that's quite impressive
dax 2017-03-02 12:10:43
Astronaut: does reset mean recover a password to your own account or drop an expired nick so you can use it
dax 2017-03-02 12:11:18
Astronaut: is it Astronaut? if not, /nick to it
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:11:19
LjL, I can tell you that.
LjL 2017-03-02 12:11:34
i bet
dax 2017-03-02 12:11:35
LjL: not sure, but I think that one's public so our local trash-eater can figure it out
mniip 2017-03-02 12:11:41
hmm
LjL 2017-03-02 12:11:47
trashpandas!
mniip 2017-03-02 12:11:50
I am in 0 channels with +s and 100 people...
mniip 2017-03-02 12:12:02
I expected them to be more common
dax 2017-03-02 12:12:03
Astronaut: done, see /msg nickserv help group if you have an existing account, /msg nickserv help register if not
dax 2017-03-02 12:12:15
mniip: /alis list * -mode +s -min 1000 -showsecret, in case that wasn't obvious
mniip 2017-03-02 12:12:20
yeah
dax 2017-03-02 12:12:31
i mean i figured it out so i assumed it was obvious, but just in case
mniip 2017-03-02 12:12:33
but like I expected one of my own to be that way
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:13:26
LjL: There are 57791 channels formed, and 39817 are visible in /list (-s) (69%)
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:14:39
that's right. 69'd that list!
LjL 2017-03-02 12:14:44
Raccoon, so now we also know what the S in +s stands for.
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:15:03
sleezy channels
Raccoon 2017-03-02 12:15:42
probably all commercial software vendors and peddling their closed-source wares.
LjL 2017-03-02 12:16:28
dax, ugh. will you join ##italiano too please
dax 2017-03-02 12:17:55
si
NotASpy 2017-03-02 12:18:16
what's the ETA for eir and sigyn reappearing ?
dax 2017-03-02 12:18:54
NotASpy: their botmaster is aware of the issue and is probably poking at it now
dax 2017-03-02 12:20:18
s/probably//
Hafydd 2017-03-02 12:21:25
their botmaster is aware of the issue and is poking at it now
dax 2017-03-02 12:22:01
shawnbon206: PM me the IP address, please
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:22:25
hi
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:22:55
im tryin g to register an account called yousuck with nickserv but it says its already registerd
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:23:10
could you get password for ohther account
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:23:31
so i can use this one
elky 2017-03-02 12:23:39
it appears expired
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:23:56
so can you unregister that one so i can use this one
mniip 2017-03-02 12:23:59
yousuck, the account has been unused for a long enough time that it has expired. I could drop it if you wanted
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:24:10
OK
mniip 2017-03-02 12:24:32
okay
mniip 2017-03-02 12:24:35
you can now register
yousuck 2017-03-02 12:25:31
OK ITS WORKING NOW
dax 2017-03-02 12:26:14
shawnbon206: nope
dax 2017-03-02 12:26:40
just PMed you, if that helps
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:27:24
Hi
mniip 2017-03-02 12:27:50
hi
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:27:57
lol
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:28:19
We had a nick troll our IRC channel the other day `vararg` and then I got a message from my own nick this morning "you still haven't figured out who vararg is?" ?!
dax 2017-03-02 12:28:32
shawnbon206: k, this is going to take a few minutes, stand by
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:28:34
how can I get logs of the last IP address that logged in with my nick
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:28:41
and the last thing said with it
LjL 2017-03-02 12:29:09
funfunctor1, by asking some channel they were in that keeps such logs, that's the only way i can think of
mniip 2017-03-02 12:29:31
funfunctor1, what kind of message
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:29:55
I am not talking about the channel logs, we have those. I am talking about my nick
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:30:04
I believe this user has hijacked my registered nick
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:30:07
i recommend turning on nickserv enforce so people who try to use your nick without identifying will get kicked off it
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:30:19
xynashi: I have that
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:30:20
is the IP of the person using your nick in the logs?
mniip 2017-03-02 12:30:22
funfunctor1, before we jump to conclusions, what kind of message was it
elky 2017-03-02 12:30:32
he quoted the messae
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:30:39
funfunctor1: why dont you just set nick enforcement and be done with it
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:30:41
yes I quoted it
mniip 2017-03-02 12:30:44
I wasn't after the message text
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:30:49
how was it sent, i think is what mniip means
dax 2017-03-02 12:30:55
shawnbon206: are you still k-lined? if not, I suspect we accidentally k-lined all of kiwiirc again
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:30:57
ie through another bot, or you just read it in the logs, or a PM, etc
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:31:04
It was sent as a pm
dax 2017-03-02 12:31:09
shawnbon206: (which would have gotten fixed rather quickly)
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:31:12
what nick were you using when you received it?
mniip 2017-03-02 12:31:18
and you were presumably not using your current nickname?
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:31:18
can't have two connections using the same nick at the same time
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:31:23
was it maybe just a similar-looking nick?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:31:30
xynashi: this nick now
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:31:36
some people like to try to impersonate people by using a nick that looks the same at a glance
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:32:01
no its not similar looking, i've been a freenode user for many years I know
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:32:13
its my nick
prawnsalad 2017-03-02 12:32:13
dax: it was klined a few hours ago
prawnsalad 2017-03-02 12:32:24
and then removed as you say.
dax 2017-03-02 12:32:31
prawnsalad: yeah, i found someone 'fessing up to it
mniip 2017-03-02 12:32:46
funfunctor1, then you should know that you can't have two users have the same nick simultaneously?
ragazor 2017-03-02 12:33:02
memoserv
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:33:05
mniip: yes but I also know I didn't send myself a message
ragazor 2017-03-02 12:33:05
how does that work
elky 2017-03-02 12:33:08
the message you got from them should have had the ip address, if visible, attached anyway
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:33:29
hi, how can I limit my channel to only allow users identified with nickserv?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:33:32
elky: It didn't
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:33:39
nebiros: +r
mniip 2017-03-02 12:33:41
funfunctor1, do you have some more concrete evidence?
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:33:45
specifically /mode #yourchanhere +r
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:33:52
xynashi: cool, thanks
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:34:09
you can also let them join but not speak by setting +q $~a instead
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:34:10
mniip: of what?
mniip 2017-03-02 12:34:30
funfunctor1, you're probably just missing some detail, do you have the query window still open?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:34:42
I still have the pm window open yes
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:34:46
its in pidgin though
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:35:02
funfunctor1: Again; anyone can use your nick without having to log into your account so all you will ever have is hearsay
mniip 2017-03-02 12:35:17
ZikZak, not while they are using it
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:35:25
(for 30 seconds anyway, and yes only when you aren't using it)
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:35:30
they're not using it atm lol
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:35:34
Clue up
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:35:38
oh funfunctor1 you don't actually have enforce enabled, btw
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:35:54
and yeah I mentioned setting enforce 10 minutes ago
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:35:57
Wow. Just...wow.
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:35:58
its a registered nick
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:36:11
/msg nickserv set enforce on
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:36:19
Doesn't mean that no one can use by default if you aren't.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:36:30
i assume the offender was on the nick 'funfunctor' while you were 'funfunctor1'?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:36:43
yes
mniip 2017-03-02 12:36:48
well
mniip 2017-03-02 12:36:51
that changes everything
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:36:58
rofl
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:36:59
also, how can I set the channel successor?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:37:04
the nick use to be vararg
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:37:14
nebiros: single-# or ## channel?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:37:19
I don't know who vararg is
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:37:21
nebiros: For # or ## channel? For # channel, you can't.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:37:26
if ##: give the intended successor the +S flag
mniip 2017-03-02 12:37:37
funfunctor1, they aren't or werent logged into your account
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:37:39
they just came into our channel the other day and started talking about a axing people
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:37:50
xynashi, NightTrain, a # channel
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:37:58
Pesudo user "freenode-staff" is the only successor of # channel and cannot be altered.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:38:01
then you can't, it's always freenode-staff
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:38:02
aaa, damn it
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:38:08
ok, cool
nebiros 2017-03-02 12:38:10
:)
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:38:18
At that point their IP address was 198-0-218-81-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:38:22
well DNS
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:38:25
the GC of a registered project can have staff change the flags for people on the project's channel, though
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:38:31
so 198.0.218.81
elky 2017-03-02 12:38:38
i seem to remember pidgin having a way to see raw logs
elky 2017-03-02 12:39:30
oh so you do have it
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:40:14
I ghosted the nick
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:40:14
then he relogs in (10:39:24 AM) funfunctor [~vararg@198-0-218-81-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] entered the room.
gry 2017-03-02 12:40:28
You could regain their nick and then after they get renamed to guest leave them a private message that it's your nick and they should use another
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:40:28
turn on nickserv enforce (/msg nickserv set enforce on)
gry 2017-03-02 12:40:41
I wouldn't turn enforce on just because of this. Just regain them once and leave them a message.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:40:42
gry: i get the idea this person knows perfectly well it's not their nick and is doing it on purpose, so i doubt that would help much
gry 2017-03-02 12:41:21
They could react to the message in some way. Either productively or not. Then action could be taken (enforce or channel ban) as desired.
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:41:25
but how did this person identify as me?
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:41:30
they were not identified as you
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:41:36
Didn't identify.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:41:37
they used the nick unIDed (enforce will stop people doing that)
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:41:42
my god man, they DID NOT identify as you.
ZikZak 2017-03-02 12:41:53
people keep telling you that
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:41:55
The user could sit on your nick by default (enforce wasn't enabled)
laikrun 2017-03-02 12:41:56
Hello!
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:41:58
by default anyone can use a nick, even a registered nick
latino30 2017-03-02 12:41:58
lol
laikrun 2017-03-02 12:42:42
xynashi Can't you enfore a nick?
laikrun 2017-03-02 12:42:52
Thus forcing a user to change or identify?
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:43:03
but they spoke in a channel that required identifying so they must have?
gry 2017-03-02 12:43:03
funfunctor1: they did not identify as you.
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:43:03
yes you can, with '/msg nickserv set enforce on' which i already said twice :P
lagbox 2017-03-02 12:43:03
even with that you have 30 seconds
laikrun 2017-03-02 12:43:03
Well I wasn't here then sorry
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:43:03
funfunctor1: presumably they were identified as their own account
xynashi 2017-03-02 12:43:03
that lets them talk no matter what nick they're using
gry 2017-03-02 12:43:03
funfunctor1: '/whowas funfunctor' does not have a 'logged in as' line.
gry 2017-03-02 12:43:08
funfunctor1: at the time they were online, their whois didn't have that line, either.
NightTrain 2017-03-02 12:43:14
You identify to an account through a nick - any nick. The user wasn't able to identify to the funfunctor account.
gry 2017-03-02 12:43:29
funfunctor1: anybody willing to check whether the person is an imposter had an opportunity to do so easily.
funfunctor1 2017-03-02 12:44:25
just trying to recover it now